Welcome to the Dawn!
Here, you can find helpful information about me, and my content!
Announcements!
💜 oh god we're having a stream today,, (2/17 3-4pm PST)
Links!
All of my socials are under the name dwncata now! (Twitter / X, Instagram, Tiktok etc)
YouTube: Lucid-Dawn
Twitch: dwncata--I'm not too active on many socials for now qwq! I'm mostly on Discord for the sake of sharing and whatnot, or I'll be posting art/writing to their own platforms :3
Hybrid's Sanctum
I am spending a lot of time working on an interactive story called Hybrid's Sanctum; Most of the OCs you see in my content and drawing streams are in this world. It's a story involving a lot of heavy subject matter, though it's something I've poured a lot of my feelings and experiences into over the last few years- and now I'm working with some friends to truly develop it into something special.I'm working on creating a separate page to fully showcase what I have for it so far, though please be aware it is VERY bare bones and not close to complete! If you'd still like to see what we have though, you can visit it here!
About Me!
💗My name is Lucid, though Kwipy, Lulu, and Zan are nicknames I use / names coined by my friends and viewers, if you'd like to use those as well!💜He/She/They/It/I ate all the pronouns, use whichever ones you'd like while you have them >:)💚Birthday is 10/3 and I am 23 years old💙My MBTI is INFP / ENFP; I get pretty evenly mixed results depending on my mood/current environment. Enneagram 2w3🖤Small brain, I can only speak English QmQ💗I used to be in the furry fandom, I still love a lot of the character design! Who knows, I might revive it one day lol💜I'm on the autistic spectrum; I also found out I have an average IQ of 110 in that eval lol pattern recognition go weee💚I mostly make animatics / fanart for games I play, with a heavier character focus; I'll also post about my own characters as well! Aside from that, games I play on stream tend to mostly be action rpgs, along with rhythm games.💙Sometimes I'll stream or otherwise pop off about console / device repair on my socials; My job is based on one of my hyperfixations, crazy tbh🖤Sometimes my streams will have a jumpscare guest appearance from our totally very heterosexual roomate, Kero. There's also my s/o Tenebrus sometimes when I do streams including him, he's okay I guess‼️ Due to my chronic pain, I may have varying levels of brainfog, ability to comprehend, etc. While I don't mind lighthearted joking, please do be understanding with this!
💜 pronouns.page entry (most of that info is here tho lol)
Likes
💗Rambling, character info/lore dumping, lovemailing💜Darker/dead dove content, psychological horror, general psychology studies and thought experiments💚Tinkering with software and hardware (Mostly hardware tbh); Fucking around and finding out but /pos💙Character and world creation, storybuilding, overengineering OCs and headcanons🖤 Hot man. Visibly tired man. Sad man. Emo bitches men that look way older than they are due to stress, characters that are a whole red banner a flag isn't enough, hyperaware characters charactgers tgat are edgy but also soff characterts that overthinj thinfs cjarfenrs that are snarky asshkles but for theuri onw reapsons, charthbers thatnf, i jast lo vne a lnot asnfdisfgn jkandskjnhf,
--,,,after a few years i learned this was more gender envy than romantic attraction oh god but im leaving it here bc that still stands tbh💗(Male) Voice ASMR💜Long Hair (I will eat it.)💚Zoomer Humor / Neurodivergency posting💙Shapes,, colors,, sounds,,, textures,,,🖤Interacting with people
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Disikes
💠 Most First Person Shooters / Games based solely on random matched PvP and/or Co-op💠Loud / sudden noises💠Grass (Horny joke yes but also it makes my skin feel weird and itchy dfkgjdsglks)💠A lot of fabrics that pill easily, especially with bedding and clothes💠My body's seemingly rng based energy levels and head fog levels💠Undocumented software for my niche homebrew needs
I know on most things it can't be helped, BUT LET ME EAT THE CODE >:(((💠Foods with squishy textures (also lettuce and onins)💠"Shouldn't you know what you're doing? " as I work on one of thousands of different models of phones💠People who can't separate fantasy from reality; Taking things someone likes in a fantasy situation, and assuming they would want it in a real world scenario💠Interacting with people
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Hyperfixations / Interests
My Favorite Characters in Media:
Characters in bold are the ones I love most / resonate the most with💜
💗Genshin Impact:
Wriothesley, Dottore, Albedo, Cyno, Kaeya, Xiao
💜Honkai Star Rail:
Boothill, Welt, Gallagher, Acheron, Fugue, Feixiao
💚Zenless Zone Zero:
Asaba Harumasa, Ellen, Lycaon, Lighter, Jane Doe
💙Pokemon:
Grimsley, Silver, N
🖤Enstars:
💠Characters: Rei, Kaoru, Nagisa
💠Units: UNDEAD, Eden
💗Yang from Piofiore
(If you know, then I apologize for being this way smh)
💜Van Helsing and Saint Germain from Code Realize
💚Shiraishi and Saeki from Collar x Malice
💙Kaoru Rindo and Il Fado from Cafe Enchante
🖤V from DMC5
‼️ If I could have violently shaking arrows pointing to Dottore, Boothill, and Shiraishi, imagine that's thereDottore is complicated bc ofc I won't justify any of the crimes he's committed but I find his current lore crumbs so fascinating! Also, given the very evident strife that exists between the segments, I hope it goes somewhere with a segment that's gonna put a stop to all of them and thats where the projections and OOC AUs come in LOL
Favorite Games Overall:
💗Hoyoverse Games:
💠Genshin, HSR, and ZZZ
💜Cyberpunk 2077
💚Devil May Cry
💠Most of my experience is with 5, with a little of 1 and 4!
💙Several Rhythm Games:
💠Enstars Music
💠Groove Coaster
💠A Dance of Fire and Ice
💠Wacca (Not exactly a streamable game, but man i love it so much,,)
🖤Several Otomate titles:
💠Code Realize
💠Piofiore
💠Collar x Malice
💠Cafe Enchante
💗Hades
💜Spyro the Dragon
💚Monster Hunter
💠Most of my experience is with MHW!
💙3D Sonic titles
💠My favorites bring Frontiers, Forces, and Colors (This was my childhood,,, ngl I feel sad with how Ultimate ended up)
🖤Pokemon
💠(I still have yet to play any Switch titles qwq)
💗I've recently been playing Armored Core 6 and I've been having fun*!
*I'm on Ibis. Fun is a flexible term >:((( /lh
Favorite Traits in OCs:
💗Humanoids or anthro fursonas
💜Androgynous or masc leaning appearances
💚Altered bodies (mutations, cyberware, etc.)
💙Mostly black or white main colors with cool toned neon highlights
🖤 Fandom OCs, personas, OC universes, AUs, etc etc i just love seeing what ppl make w them :]
💠If u know any artists or are an artist who draws characters like these gimme awrawrawrawr
💠(will add to this as i recognize more patterns lmao! Just general preferences I tend to have in seeing OCs and going "YOOO this is epic")
Rules!
This whole page is basically me trying to lay out what I am and am not comfy with; I will not be upset if you don't remember all of this LMAO but as long as you maintain an effort to be understanding, we should be okay!More or less I'm just doing this tbh

Some things to know when interacting with me!
This is basically me establishing things such as difficulties with communication, and some hard rules / boundaries I have! This applies to any interaction with me, DMing me, server messages, etc.
💠I generally enjoy talking about my interests, and listening to others' as well! I am usually okay with DMs, but have become rather dry with responses due to lack of time and energy. I'd much rather talk in server, especially when it comes to receiving "hi" DMs and the like (,,which I will 100% ghost I'm sorry pls at least open w something that differentiates u from a solicitor or bot)💠If I ask to change the subject, please do so- and (in server / private interactions) the same goes for telling me! I am awful at recognizing when something is off, and the last thing I want is for someone to think I have ill intent when I don't. The same goes for things like trauma dumping, I talk about my past sometimes a bit too openly at times and while some people are chill with it, if you find it to be a discomfort please tell me and I will absolutely not be upset about it! I'll likely use tone tags to try to help as well qwq💠I tend to talk in paragraphs / text walls low-key, if you have issues with reading long texts like that let me know so I can accommodate!💠I go on tangents a lot, you are absolutely okay to remind me if you'd like to get back on topic :>💠I really don't like discussing politics in any form. This includes things such as certain media being problematic; they're important subjects, but not ones I want to discuss with most people.💠I really live under a rock and don't process a lot of passive visual media too well (manga/webtoons, anime, shows/series, movies, etc.) If you like talking about concepts themselves, I tend to bridge to my own interests and discuss that way! (I.E. if someone shows me Neuvilette from Genshin and talks about his struggles with recognizing social constructs, I can think of Nagisa from Enstars and be like "Man I LOVE that kind of writing, because-" But please know that I'm not likely able to directly discuss a lot of common interests / media that most people can!💠I don't quite know how to properly describe it, but essentially if you have a heavy "Proshippers DNI" preference, there's a fair chance we won't get along. I say this because of my interest in Dottore and similar characters, and my own strong preference to be able to separate what's reality and what's fiction, and the difference of consuming that content vs. dealing with it in a real life situation with real consequences. I get extremely uncomfortable with a lot of concepts that are associated with the term (like 90% of it basically) but because of how I view problematic characters like Dottore / I recognize this kind of media consumption is a coping mechanism for many people with related trauma, I know I'm essentially put in the same boat....Which is weird too bc I don't really ship characters skshksbs (aside from the infamous duo,,) like if the art is pretty and doesn't make me feel icky then it's pretty art qwq- Wrio/Chlorinde and Wrio/Neuvi for example are both ships I enjoy💠On that note, I enjoy seeing how people interpret characters on their own level! Even if things are more ooc, one of my favorite parts of fandoms is seeing people's personal views and ideas related to it. If you are a person who attacks things like rarepairs, headcanons people have that are unrelated to canon, or otherwise need a justification for how people interpret media / why someone's interpretation is 'wrong' / whatever else, I will not be likely to get along well I'm sorry to say :spiral:This is not the same as correcting a misconception (such as Wrio being colorblind, if I believed it was canon and you inform me it's not, that's different from this!) It's more the aggression factor of "that'll never happen" because yes, I'm aware lmao💠My active hours are low-key RNG, so I do not mind late responses / messages at odd hours and all that! Send whatever you'd like to talk about (including a check in if you believe I forgot to respond, which has happened before!) and I'll continue conversation overtime as I'm able!💠Generally speaking, I tend to prefer a small open environment (ie. my server) over DMs! I may be active in a server and not a DM depending on the content and where my energy levels are at, as it's less personal / I put less focus into these interactions.💠If I learn you're a minor and lied about your age, I will not be happy. I like discussing characters in both SFW and NSFW terms, to the right audience. I understand especially with later teens that the interest is gonna be there regardless, hell I was in the same boat, which is honestly why I'm a bit lax when it comes to suggestive art, jokes, etc. but straight up if I learn I've been talking explicit content with a minor then I'm blocking + banning you.
Stream Rules!
This is essentially a (very) long version of the basic rules I have on YouTube, and most viewers should not have to read through all of this; it's mainly there as low key disclaimers honestly, so I can hopefully cut down arguing/bad interactions easier. There's also actual disclaimers, given my work and discussion with tech and character psychology- and my general inability to draw a line in interactions that go into more sensitive content unless I specify a bunch of guidelines like this beforehand lmaoBut tbh it's mostly general stream etiquette, mixed with my general interaction preferences above!
💠Please keep basic respect to me, fellow viewers, and anybody who I may be with on stream. Blatant hatred and negativity will not be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to homophobia, transphobia, racism, sexism, you know the drill. Adding on to that, even if you can reclaim slurs, please don't use them here.💠Don't send any links in chat.💠Don't self promo/talk about other streamers in chat, unless it's directly pertaining to the current conversation; same goes for promoting me in other streamer's chats.💠Don't spam across multiple messages, or be excessive in emote spamming.💠Given that I can only understand English, please refrain from chatting in other languages I can't moderate.💠No backseat gaming. I appreciate tips or suggestions, but being aggressive or otherwise negative will result in a mute.💠No political speech, or commentary on problematic media. There may occasionally be exceptions on subjects I feel more comfortable discussing (ex. why I prefer to draw some Hoyoverse characters with darker skin tones) but unless it's directly relevant and actively being discussed, please leave this discussion for a different environment.💠Please don't trauma dump- I'm open to passively talking about small scale things you wanna share, for lighter subjects. But at the end of the day, I am a streamer on YouTube, not a therapist, and can't help with heavier subjects that could potentially make myself or others uncomfortable.💠Talking before stream is allowed, and very much encouraged; talking to each other even more so! Off topic chatter both to me and with other viewers is fine for most situations; However, please try to stay somewhat on topic if we're actively talking about something specific!💠Please be mindful of your tone. I will have a small example at the bottom of this section to show what I mean, if anyone has issues with it; tbh just not being overall condescending, (passive) aggressive, etc is pretty much all I ask.💠If I feel uncomfortable with the current direction of discussion, or otherwise feel it is going too far to discuss on stream, I'll ask to change course. Please don't argue if I ask you to stop something; regardless if it has been explicitly said here, if you don't stop you'll be muted. If you feel there was miscommunication, or you made a mistake and agree you won't repeat it in the future, please let me know through the mute appeal section in my submission box.
Tone Help!
I am not picky with this, generally speaking if you have good intentions, you are okay. However, it has come up, as these have been direct quotes of messages I've dealt with in past.
Subject | A good example | A bad example |
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I had a good lunch | "What did you guys have for lunch today? I had (this) and it was good" | "I'm bored, so I'm just gonna say that i had (this) for lunch today" |
A quiet part of the stream where you'd like to make off topic discussion | "Has anyone here seen (this)? I thought it was cool" | "Since nobody is talking, does someone want to talk about (this) |
You are leaving the stream, or announcing a different activity | "I'm gonna do (this) for a while, have fun!" | "I'm gonna go do (this)" |
You want to give advice on a game I am playing | "Have you tried (this)?" or "It might help if you do (this)" | "Do (this)" or "Why aren't you doing (this)" |
Reasoning for each |
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There's nothing that can really be pulled from a random drop like this, with no open end for conversation; not to mention the blatant disrespect to me. This is low key the difference between potential conversation, and r/nobodyasked material. |
When the stream is slower, there's less talking, less happening, etc. I am totally okay with off topic chatter- I'm very likely to join it lmao. However, the specific point made on lack of content/interaction is honestly just seen as insulting; There's really no other reason to throw that in, you can very much talk about whatever you'd like here regardless of whoever is or isn't talking. |
You are more than welcome to say goodbyes, and include what else you have planned if you'd like to share; I love to hear it! But an out of pocket announcement that you're gonna leave for something else, and that's it, is honestly rude. If you don't want to watch, or would rather do something else, of course that's normal, and completely okay. But if you're not saying goodbye, there's really no reason to announce your change of activities to my stream. |
This one has recently been added in regards to the difference for me between backseat gaming, and offering genuine advice / suggestions with good intent; Nothing has happened recently on this! I just wanted to make it clear moving forward. I will not be doing whatever someone says because it's the right / best / etc. way, but I do like talking about things that might help. People play games differently, and enjoy them for different reasons; keep that in mind, and we'll most likely be fine! |
Disclaimers!
TECHNOLOGY, TINKERING, AND MODDING DISCLAIMER:
When I work on hardware streams or otherwise show bits of my work, do NOT take my work as an example or tutorial. I highly encourage tinkering, but in a safe environment, with dedicated knowledge on the subject either already obtained, or present through videos or some other means that are specifically meant as a tutorial or guide.All of the work I do is on my own property, or was otherwise given permission, and possibility of loss and/or damages has already been acknowledged and accepted. The work I do live on stream is often not in correct practice, and I do not have a proper work area set up / preparations that you should make to work on something you want to clean or otherwise fix; I do this fully accepting the risk of damaging my own property, as I am able to properly work on it off camera if something breaks. Any content or posts I have where I discuss things related to tech repair are my own experience, but should not be taken as reference material. I know how to fix a lot on things, but as to why or how those things work, or how to undo major damage should it come down to it, becomes a lot more uncertain.
TLDR: The work I do on stream is meant for entertainment, not education. Don't use me as a reference.
REGARDING PSYCHOLOGY DISCUSSION:
While I talk about the mind and people's thought processes a lot, bear in mind I am talking purely from my own observation, with my own biases. I will talk about my personal experiences, thoughts, and opinions, and how I think others reach different conclusions; things I say are based on how it worked out for me, but will not necessarily have similar results to others and is not to be taken as advice. I discuss these things mostly for the sake of character writing, rather than real life issues.I am not a professional by any means, and if you need help, please seek out a way to talk to someone who is. While I passively learn and research concepts, I'm just an average person, who has yet to solve a lot of their own issues.
TLDR: Anything I say regarding psychology should be seen as nothing more than what it is; discussion, mostly for the sake of writing. If you need help, please find it from a source that can properly give it to you.
Resources!
Quick Navigation:Art Requests / Commissions
Art Credits
Chat CSS Template
Dawnjuu Info
Software I Use
My Hardware / Repair Resources
Music in my Streams
Art Requests / Commissions!
Requests:
You are welcome to make any art requests in my Submission Box! Please note that if I'm not feeling a request, I might not do it. I'm much more likely to take on a request if it relates to my Hyperfixation List, but you're welcome to submit any requests you'd like 💜
Commissions:
I'm gonna be real I don't feel comfortable taking on paid work right now! I'm a bit too scatterbrained and don't believe I'd do well with the pressure that comes with paid work at the moment. If/when that feeling changes, I will post TOS and the like when I'm ready!
Art Credits!
2D Model:
My model was a collaborative effort between myself and Xysible on YouTube! I came up with base character concept, discussed it with him and a few other friends, and when I finished the lines and base colors, he did the shading.Rigging was done by myself, on the free version of Live2D no less LMAO
Loading Screen:
Loading screen art also by Xysible! I was given permission to reuse it and animate it for my loading screen.
Profile Pictures:
Right now, my pfp on Yt is the same as the loading screen; credits to Xysible.
My current pfp on other socials, the infamous Whorb, is (unfortunately) my own work.
Alert Box Art:
Floaty Weee and Pubble by Xysible
Server Emoji Credits:
Restream Chat CSS Template!
I plan on releasing a tutorial video / publicly posting about this one day, but until then I put a bunch of text on how to use the template, with my usual sense of overexplaination lol
Templates Page
CSS Generator Sheet
Direct Link to Restream Chat Settings
Dawnjuu Info!
Currently, all Dawnjuu will be present on every subsequent stream after being commissioned/submitted.If it gets to a point where there starts to be too many, I will change this rule going forward, but will try to keep already-made Dawnjuu from any active viewers on stream!
Commission:
Contact me, preferrably on Discord or Instagram, and let me know what you want to do! They are currently $10, barring any designs or ideas that are more complex. You will receive unwatermarked PNG(s) via email as well!
Submission / Template:
To make a submission, just DM me with the art and give me a name to refer to it with :3To make one with a template, here is the Google Form for the template! Simply fill it out and DM me on Discord saying you've done so :> Edits are fine if it doesn't come out as envisioned, just lmk!
Dawnjuu Base:
Here is the ball outline! I reccommend using it to make sure it looks like the others do on the program, but anything on a 150x150 pixel canvas should work fine.

Dawnjuu I've drawn that have been on stream to date:
In order left to right, usernames on YouTube:
-Whorb (Hey that's me)
-Tenes Ball (Tenebrus Dusk, my s/o)
-Lucid Tuber (Potato,, tuber,,,, idea from Vucky abx)
-Phel (OC by Cheerfulcat05)
-Armed and Dangerous (Idea from Cheerfulcat05)
-Crunch (From ninjagods)
Submitted Dawnjuu that have been on stream to date:
In order left to right, usernames on YouTube:
-The Neob (By Xysible)
Software Credits + Links!
While kinda excessive here, I genuinely love how easy access these programs are, and would recommend them just on their own merits to anyone who could use them lmao. None of these are sponsored- evaluate different programs and find what fits your needs!
Dawnjuu Base Code
The Dawnjuu are slightly modified from an open source branch of Shimejii by kilkakon, whose version was based off another group that is credited on their page. I have been using it since I was in high school, it's one of my favorite dumb little pc mods!
Soundboard
I use exp soundboard as I like how I can spam a sound without it becoming too compressed.
Emote Animations
3dgifmaker.com, with occasional edits on ezgif.com
3dgifmaker might want you to disable your adblocker, it works for me when I switch to Chrome tho
Drawing Program
Currently, I use Krita! I messed with it on and off with CSP but ended up liking Krita better for now
In any of my work before 2024, I have used Paint Tool SAI V2
You need to purchase a license for V1, linked below:
SAI V1
Krita Brushes I use
ZER0COIL Krita Brushes (72 Set)
SAI2 Brushes I use
Scatters by revioLATE (DeviantArt)
Display + Tablet Pen > PC App
SuperDisplay ($10)
I no longer use this, but it was great for before I had an actual drawing tablet!
Video Editing
PC: DaVinci Resolve 18Mobile: YouCut
Android Release
iOS Release
Audio Editing
Both the Fairlight audio editor in DaVinci Resolve, and Audacity
Mobile Game Streaming
My audio is captured with Mark Smirnov's Bluetooth Audio Receiver (Windows App), its really good with latency so I can play rhythm games and hear the audio I'm recording without messing with note timing offsets! My tablet has latency issues with wired solutions, so this was a perfect remedy to that!I have yet to find a mobile screencast program that I like qwq
Switch Streaming
In past streams, I used Yuzu to emulate games I owned and wanted to stream for sake of ease / performance.
In the future, I'll likely just overclock my Switch / use my capture card qwq
PNG Guest Animation
Discord Streamkit, using the assistance of this wonderfully simple Tutorial by Grif N More, which includes an automated form to generate CSS for your needs!
Hardware References + Links!
None of these links are sponsored, please use your best judgement and evaluate products for your needs, and find good prices from sellers you can trust!
Tutorials!
ifixit.com has some good tutorials on several things, depending on the person writing it; I'd reccomend them as a base of understanding a job , but be sure to look around between different YT videos and Reddit to double check others' experiences; especially when it comes to more niche work, more recently released hardware, or if you need info on repairing a specific model (which is also extremely helpful if you're new to repairing imo)
My Setup!
My PC specs are as follows:
💠CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor
💠GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
💠RAM: 32 GB DDR4-3600
My Gameplay Tablet:
I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8.
💠I will say though, it has issues with Enstars when its plugged in to anything (charging, headphones, etc.) However, I've only had this problem with Enstars, and I do not know if this is an issue with the product line, or a problem in my unit specifically.
My Drawing Tablet:
I use a Wacom Cintiq 13HD.
(Found at a local pawn shop :3)
My Microphone:
I use a Blue Yeti USB Mic, however let it be noted that it was the same one I used for all of my streams, including my older ones; the sound quality improved as we worked on creating a sound cancelling environment, and without that I'd honestly reccomend investigating other mics. We had it already from a past project, which is why we avoided replacing it.My sound environment was created using a bunch of acoustic foam to more or less cover the walls in our closet, with a bunch of towels sewn together as a curtain 'door'. I also have a mic isolation shield with it.
My Cameras:
My tracking camera is a Logitech C930 and my handcam is a Razer Kiyo Pro.
My Capture Card:
EVGA XR1
Music Used:
All music used in my streams is by NEFFEX, with tracks from the non-copyrighted list of music from youtube- I really vibe with the sound, so I just have that quietly in the background sometimes qwqMy favorites are Changing, which is my opener; The one after it, Catch Me If I Fall, and my top favorite is what I end with, Dreaming On!
The outro music I use on clipped video uploads is Take Another Dose by a very small indie band that I loved as a kid, A Poison Alibi- their following was very very small, they didn't get much out and it seems they have since dissolved. I'm honestly very saddened they never took off bc they had cool music :(
When Tenebrus is on my streams, the music I use aside from Neffex's work is a mix between different artists on the same royalty free library from youtube- if you'd like any song names, please ask!
Thank you for reading!
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Overlay Tutorial Info!
Here is the template!
The canvas is 280 x 200 px.
The blank space on the sides is on purpose! This is likely to look bad / be cut off etc without it!The box will clip itself to the size of the message with my tutorial, not scale, so I recommend simply having a repeating pattern of some kind or another more low key visual!

Here are a couple free message boxes to use, as well as what they look like under the template:
Lucid's Lore!
((Include CG style images))CG 1: Meeting Tene
-Blurred NPC type blank 'irl' Lucid
-Shared interest during work / share number
-Continued talking, etc. Lucid being in a high pressure environmentCG 2: The workshop
-"...You have skills. You're being made to do things you're not meant to and the ones you have are suffering as a result.CG 3: